Therefore this darkness of the body has been placed between us and God, like the cloud of old between the Egyptians and the Hebrews; Exodus 14:20 and this is perhaps what is meant by He made darkness His secret place, namely our dulness, through which few can see even a little. ..though perhaps this making means preserving by that Word by which they came into existence. IV. For to those who are like wild beasts true and sound discourses are stones. And are you not amazed at Manoah the Judge of yore, and at Peter the disciple in later days; the one being unable to endure the sight even of one in whom was a representation of God; and saying, “We are undone, O wife, we have seen God;” speaking as though even a vision of God could not be grasped by human beings, let alone the Nature of God; and the other unable to endure the Presence of Christ in his boat and therefore bidding Him depart; and this though Peter was more zealous than the others for the knowledge of Christ, and received a blessing for this,’ and was entrusted with the greatest gifts. Much too might be said about voices and ears. Hope was that for which he is commended; and that, not that he should know God, but that he should call upon him. What are the mutual aggressions and concessions of day and night, and their regular irregularities — to use a somewhat strange expression? And if He is in the Universe, then He must be either in some part or in the whole. And some they left on earth, and some they hid beneath the earth (this being the only sign of wisdom about them), and some they raised to heaven. And what is the nourishing power of water, and what the difference therein; for some things are irrigated from above, and others drink from their roots, if I may luxuriate a little in my language when speaking of the luxuriant gifts of God. What collected it? 28) The opening of the Second Oration contains some brilliant rhetorical moves, as Gregory seems to lead on a tantalising ascent into the knowledge of God (28.1-3), before awakening us to the fact that God is, in his essence, incomprehensible, “not, I mean, as to the fact of His being, but as to its nature.” (28.5). Thus Enos hoped to call upon the Name of the Lord. O ridiculous distribution of inheritance! But in my opinion it is impossible to express Him, and yet more impossible to conceive Him. He pays tribute, but it is out of a fish; yea, He is the King of those who demanded it. What are the storehouses of the winds? Orations of Gregory of Nazianzus (1893) ... (28) The Second Theological Oration (29) The Third Theological Oration; The Fourth Theological Oration; The Fifth Theological Oration (33) Against The Arians (34) On the Arrival of the Egyptians (37) On Matthew 29 (38) On the Theophany For every one who sees a beautifully made lute, and considers the skill with which it has been fitted together and arranged, or who hears its melody, would think of none but the lutemaker, or the luteplayer, and would recur to him in mind, though he might not know him by sight. XXIII. IX. Know you the bond of Pleiades, or the fence of Orion Job 38:31 as He who counts the number of the stars and calls them all by their names? Wherefore he estimates all knowledge on earth only as through a glass darkly, as taking its stand upon little images of the truth. Have you considered the importance of the fact that a heathen writer” speaks of the sun as holding the same position among material objects as God does among objects of thought? I cannot give to the air the whole empire of all that is thought to belong to the air. Or rather, first, can you tell me, of your own knowledge of the things in heaven, what are the sky and the stars; you who know not what lies at your very feet, and cannot even take the measure of yourself, and yet must busy yourself about what is above your nature, and gape at the illimitable? And thus to us also is manifested That which made and moves and preserves all created things, even though He be not comprehended by the mind. For if, he says, I leave everything else alone, and consider myself and the whole nature and constitution of man, and how we are mingled, and what is our movement, and how the mortal was compounded with the immortal, and how it is that I flow downwards, and yet am borne upwards, and how the soul is circumscribed; and how it gives life and shares in feelings; and how the mind is at once circumscribed and unlimited, abiding in us and yet travelling over the Universe in swift motion and flow; how it is both received and imparted by word, and passes through air, and enters with all things; how it shares in sense, and enshrouds itself away from sense. And what can this Something Else be but God? It is difficult to conceive God but to define Him in words is an impossibility, as one of the Greek teachers of Divinity taught, not unskilfully, as it appears to me; with the intention that he might be thought to have apprehended Him; in that he says it is a hard thing to do; and yet may escape being convicted of ignorance because of the impossibility of giving expression to the apprehension. XXII. II. Combining all things in one, solely with a view to the consent of the Creator of all things; Hymners of the Majesty of the Godhead, eternally contemplating the Eternal Glory, not that God may thereby gain an increase of glory, for nothing can be added to that which is full — to Him, who supplies good to all outside Himself but that there may never be a cessation of blessings to these first natures after God. Nothing then remains but to conceive of Him as incorporeal. But a man who states what God is not without going on to say what He is, acts much in the same way as one would who when asked how many twice five make, should answer, “Not two, nor three, nor four, nor five, nor twenty, nor thirty, nor in short any number below ten, nor any multiple of ten;” but would not answer “ten,” nor settle the mind of his questioner upon the firm ground of the answer. I cannot give to the air the whole empire of all that is thought to belong to the air. But as to this point, let those discuss it whose business it is; and let them ascend as far as possible in the examination. And how do you conceive of a mind? How, moreover, does it receive all the rivers, and yet remain the same, through the very superabundance of its immensity, if that term be permissible? Jeremiah 13:23 If a ravening and roaring lion, seeking what he may devour 1 Peter 5:8 of our souls or of our words; or a wild boar, trampling under foot the precious and translucent pearls of the Truth; Matthew 7:6 or an Arabian and alien wolf, or one keener even than these in tricks of argument; or a fox, that is a treacherous and faithless soul, changing its shape according to circumstances or necessities, feeding on dead or putrid bodies, or on little vineyards when the large ones have escaped them; or any other carnivorous beast, rejected by the Law as unclean for food or enjoyment; our discourse must withdraw from such and be engraved on solid tables of stone, and that on both sides because the Law is partly visible, and partly hidden; the one part belonging to the mass who remain below, the other to the few who press upward into the Mount. What is it that props it up, and on what does that rest? And whether this was an appearance by day, only visible to Saints, or an unerring vision of the night, or an impression on the mind holding converse with the future as if it were the present; or some other ineffable form of prophecy, I cannot say; the God of the Prophets knoweth, and they know who are thus inspired. For if He is Nowhere, then some person of a very inquiring turn of mind might ask, How is it then that He can even exist? And those of them who were most subject to passion deified their passions, or honoured them among their gods; Anger and Blood-thirstiness, Lust and Drunkenness, and every similar wickedness; and made out of this an ignoble and unjust excuse for their own sins. . Have your natural philosophers with their knowledge of useless details anything to tell us, those men I mean who are really endeavoring to measure the sea with a wineglass, and such mighty works by their own conceptions? How is it that the earth stands solid and unswerving? Look also at the fishy tribe gliding through the waters, and as it were flying through the liquid element, and breathing its own air, but in danger when in contact with ours, as we are in the waters; and mark their habits and dispositions, their intercourse and their births, their size and their beauty, and their affection for places, and their wanderings, and their assemblings and departings, and their properties which so nearly resemble those of the animals that dwell on land; in some cases community, in others contrast of properties, both in name and shape. And let faith lead us rather than reason, if at least you have learned the feebleness of the latter in matters nearer to you, and have known reason by knowing the things that are beyond reason, so as not to be altogether on the earth or of the earth, because you are ignorant even of your ignorance. And how could this Transcendence and that which is transcended be distinguished in thought, if there is not a limit to divide and define them? There are proper settings in which to philosophize about God. For every one who sees a beautifully made lute, and considers the skill with which it has been fitted together and arranged, or who hears its melody, would think of none but the lutemaker, or the luteplayer, and would recur to him in mind, though he might not know him by sight. For this is what we were labouring to show, that even the secondary natures surpass the power of our intellect; much more then the First and (for I fear to say merely That which is above all), the only Nature. This was their course. Cf. Wherefore he estimates all knowledge on earth only as through a glass darkly, 1 Corinthians 13:12 as taking its stand upon little images of the truth. And if you like we will grant you this: to what then will you ascribe its preservation and protection in accordance with the terms of its first creation. [6] Gregory made a significant impact on the shape of Trinitarian theology among both Greek- and Latin -speaking theologians, and he is … Or shall I give the really scientific explanation of it from Scripture concisely, and yet more satisfactorily and truly than by the longest arguments? What is the drawing of nature, and the mutual relation between parents and children, that it should be held together by a spell of love? Second Oration (Or. Yet he saw not God as God, but gave Him food as a man. I do not know whether it is the same with the higher natures and purer Intelligences which because of their nearness to God, and because they are illumined with all His Light, may possibly see, if not the whole, at any rate more perfectly and distinctly than we do; some perhaps more, some less than others, in proportion to their rank. or whatever may be the right expression when one contemplates the sun? But reason receiving us in our desire for God, and in our sense of the impossibility of being without a leader and guide, and then making us apply ourselves to things visible and meeting with the things which have been since the beginning, does not stay its course even here. Who poured forth the air, that great and abundant wealth, not measured to men by their rank or fortunes; not restrained by boundaries; not divided out according to people’s ages; but like the distribution of the Manna, received in sufficiency, and valued for its equality of distribution; the chariot of the winged creation; the seat of the winds; the moderator of the seasons; the quickener of living things, or rather the preserver of natural life in the body; in which bodies have their being, and by which we speak; in which is the light and all that it shines upon, and the sight’ which flows through it? Regrettably, I can't reply to every letter, but I greatly appreciate your feedback — especially notifications about typographical errors and inappropriate ads. GREGORY NAZIANZEN'S FIRST INVECTIVE AGAINST JULIAN THE EMPEROR. How, moreover, does it receive all the rivers, and yet remain the same, through the very superabundance of its immensity, if that term be permissible? Faint therefore with the desire, and as it were restive and impatient of the disability, it tries a second course, either to look at visible things, and out of some of them to make a god...(a poor contrivance, for in what respect and to what extent can that which is seen be higher and more godlike than that which sees, that this should worship that?) Hitherto, historical theologians have attributed to Gregory an essentialist interpretation of the imago, in which it is identified only with the rational soul. And how shall we preserve the truth that God pervades all things and fills all, as it is written “Do not I fill heaven and earth? Look too at the variety and lavish abundance of fruits, and most of all at the wondrous beauty of such as are most necessary. In the former Discourse we laid down clearly with respect to the Theologian, both what sort of character he ought to bear, and on what kind of subject he may philosophize, and when, and to what extent. Is it not that which is inherent in some person not itself, and are not its movements thoughts, silent or uttered? How comes he to be the creator of day when above the earth, and of night when below it? For it is much easier, and more concise to shew what a thing is not from what it is, than to demonstrate what it is by stripping it of what it is not. Who wove the song for the swan when he spreads his wings to the breezes, and makes melody of their rustling? Gregory of Nazianzus (Greek: Γρηγόριος ὁ Ναζιανζηνός Grēgorios ho Nazianzēnos; c. 329–25 January 390), also known as Gregory the Theologian or Gregory Nazianzen, was a 4th-century Archbishop of Constantinople, and theologian. As far, however, as we have attained, who measure with our little measure things hard to be understood, perhaps one reason is to prevent us from too readily throwing away the possession because it was so easily come by. Shall we pause here, after discussing nothing further than matter and visible things, or, since the Word knows the Tabernacle of Moses to be a figure of the whole creation — I mean the entire system of things visible and invisible — shall we pass the first veil, and stepping beyond the realm of sense, shall we look into the Holy Place, the Intellectual and Celestial creation? St. Gregory of Nazianzus, “The Second Theological Oration (Oration 28),” in On God and Christ: The Five Theological Orations and Two Letters to Cledonius, trans. Why, even their very existence is a proof of His supreme goodness. Gregory’s Fifth Theological Oration discusses the deity of the Holy Spirit: Others again have worshipped any chance visible objects, setting up the most beautiful of what they saw as their gods. illuminated thence with the purest Illumination, or one in one degree and one in another, proportionally to their nature and rank...so conformed to beauty and moulded that they become secondary Lights, and can enlighten others by the overflowings and largesses of the First Light? But if any be a Nadad or an Abihu, or of the Order of the Elders, let him go up indeed, but let him stand afar off, according to the value of his purification. And besides, where was He before the Universe was created, for this is a point of no little difficulty. Now if you have in your thought passed through the air and all the things of air, reach with me to heaven and the things of heaven. Now when I go up eagerly into the Mount — or, to use a truer expression, when I both eagerly long, and at the same time am afraid (the one through my hope and the other through my weakness) to enter within the Cloud, and hold converse with God, for so God commands; if any be an Aaron, let him go up with me, and let him stand near, being ready, if it must be so, to remain outside the Cloud. (To help fight spam, this address might change occasionally.) For, suppose that its existence is accidental, to what will you let us ascribe its order? Oration 41.15-6. I. The use of rhetoric and scripture in Gregory Nazianzen's Oration 27 and 28. But to comprehend the whole of so great a Subject as this is quite impossible and impracticable, not merely to the utterly careless and ignorant, but even to those who are highly exalted, and who love God, and in like manner to every created nature; seeing that the darkness of this world and the thick covering of the flesh is an obstacle to the full understanding of the truth. Or are we rather to leave all these things, and to look at the Deity absolutely, as best we can, collecting a fragmentary perception of It from Its images? Out of Whose womb came the ice? GREGORY OF NAZIANZUS, ORATION 28 — “ON THE DOCTRINE OF GOD” Brief Biography. What then? And before we come to such points as these, how is it that some are crawling things, and others upright; some attached to one spot, some amphibious; some delight in beauty and others are unadorned; some are married and some single; some temperate and others intemperate; some have numerous offspring and others not; some are long-lived and others have but short lives? Contact information. And consider the tribes of birds, and their varieties of form and color, both of those which are voiceless and of songbirds. Do these belong to the Accidental, or to something else? The Angel then is called spirit and fire; Spirit, as being a creature of the intellectual sphere; Fire, as being of a purifying nature; for I know that the same names belong to the First Nature. Basil was good friends with Gregory of Nazianzus, ... Second Theological Oration, ch. Who gave to the grasshopper the lute in his breast, and the songs and chirruping on the branches, when they are moved by the sun to make their midday music, and sing among the groves, and escort the wayfarer with their voices? I will not speak of the ants’ storehouses and storekeepers, and of their treasurings of wood in quantities corresponding to the time for which it is wanted, and all the other details which we know are told of their marches and leaders and their good order in their works. St Basil, much to Gregory’s disdain, consecrated him Bishop of Sasima in the Archdiocese of Caesarea. For my purpose in doing so was, not to get credit for myself for astonishing utterances, or excessive wisdom, through tying knots and solving difficulties (this was the great miraculous gift of Daniel), but to make clear the point at which my argument has aimed from the first. How is it that some are gregarious and others solitary, some herbivorous and others carnivorous, some fierce and others tame, some fond of man and domesticated, others untamable and free? V. But enough has been said on this point. What is it that each has in common with the other, and their mutual dependence and agreement? And mark, if you please, what follows. This essay offers a fresh reading of Gregory Nazianzen's vision of the imago Dei. In sum, we cannot rule out the possibility that Gregory had those shorter works in mind in addition to the anti-Eunomian works or perhaps even instead of the anti-Eunomian works. What is the desire for and imparting of nourishment, and who brought us spontaneously to those first springs and sources of life? And what is it which ever moves him in his circuit, though in his nature stable and immovable, truly unwearied, and the giver and sustainer of life, and all the rest of the titles which the poets justly sing of him, and never resting in his course or his benefits? I do not know whether it is the same with the higher natures and purer Intelligences which because of their nearness to God, and because they are illumined with all His Light, may possibly see, if not the whole, at any rate more perfectly and distinctly than we do; some perhaps more, some less than others, in proportion to their rank. If in some part, then He will be circumscribed by that part which is less than Himself; but if everywhere, then by one which is further and greater — I mean the Universal, which contains the Particular; if the Universe is to be contained by the Universe, and no place is to be free from circumscription. How is the boundary of it, though it be an element of such magnitude, only sand? Thus reason that proceeds from God, that is implanted in all from the beginning and is the first law in us, and is bound up in all, leads us up to God through visible things. What is the desire for and imparting of nourishment, and who brought us spontaneously to those first springs and sources of life? For what will you conceive the Deity to be, if you rely upon all the approximations of reason? For that which may be conceived may perhaps be made clear by language, if not fairly well, at any rate imperfectly, to any one who is not quite deprived of his hearing, or slothful of understanding. This will be made clear to you as follows:— Are not Spirit, and Fire, and Light, Love, and Wisdom, and Righteousness, and Mind and Reason, and the like, the names of the First Nature? And Who binds the waters in the clouds, and, fixing part in the clouds (O marvel!) For no inspired teacher has yet asserted or admitted such a notion, nor has the sentence of our own Court allowed it. 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